In any case, I think that actuaries who work
in industry could probably get away with just a superficial understanding of calculus. After all,
it's no longer being tested directly by the SOA or CAS.
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Originally posted by probability View PostWhy limit(pun intended) this argument to multivariate calculus? A student will not gain a rigorous understanding of single variable calculus as well until he studies analysis.
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostHence the "if" in my original statement.
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Originally posted by probability View PostYou're right, but what percentage of such students can be found in today's high schools?
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostI'd wager any kid that can take Calc. 3 in high school can understand the basics of set theory/real analysis.
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Originally posted by probability View PostGreat idea. Maybe we should start having high school students take abstract algebra and measuretheoretic probability as well. That way they can be ready for the Ph.D.
Qualifiying Exams by the time they're 18 and go directly from high school to graduate school.:wacko:
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostOne would argue if high schools started offering classes beyond calc. 2 that they should offer real analysis before calc. 3. A lot of kids coming out of a high school program do not understand calculus. And a lot of people will argue that to really understand calculus 3, you need linear algebra and some analysis/topology. In any case, most advanced math students will go on to major in math (at least from what I've seen) and they would benefit more from Real Analysis than trying to understand calc. 3.Last edited by probability; January 13 2010, 03:44 AM.
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostOne would argue if high schools started offering classes beyond calc. 2 that they should offer real analysis before calc. 3. A lot of kids coming out of a high school program do not understand calculus. And a lot of people will argue that to really understand calculus 3, you need linear algebra and some analysis/topology. In any case, most advanced math students will go on to major in math (at least from what I've seen) and they would benefit more from Real Analysis than trying to understand calc. 3.
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Originally posted by R_T View PostJust about any moron can pass P!
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Originally posted by R_T View PostThe only positive aspect of attainig a stats degree, as it applies to actuarial science, is that it will hopefully expose the student to SAS, which is important for Health & P&C
work. If you are looking for a major that will teach you to think, I would put physics at the top of the list. As far as the stats material covered on the exams, anyone with half a brain can learn it on his own.
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Originally posted by R_T View PostMost high school (and some college) students can't even handle calc 1.
Moreover, most high school teachers aren't even qualified to teach real analysis! What country are you living in?
And most high schools won't teach calc3 there, that's why kids go to a nearby college to do that... I took calc3 and vector calc my senior year at a university not too far from my high school.
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostOne would argue if high schools started offering classes beyond calc. 2 that they should offer real analysis before calc. 3. A lot of kids coming out of a high school program do not understand calculus. And a lot of people will argue that to really understand calculus 3, you need linear algebra and some analysis/topology. In any case, most advanced math students will go on to major in math (at least from what I've seen) and they would benefit more from Real Analysis than trying to understand calc. 3.
Moreover, most high school teachers aren't even qualified to teach real analysis! What country are you living in?
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Originally posted by NoMoreExams View PostOf course a stats degree (a good one) will go beyond what actuarial exams cover. The point of stats or math degree or ...etc. is to broaden your horizons and teach you how to think. There are only so many exams, a good part of being a good actuary is coming up with quick ways to do adhoc requests.
work. If you are looking for a major that will teach you to think, I would put physics at the top of the list. As far as the stats material covered on the exams, anyone with half a brain can learn it on his own.
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